Everett
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Post by Everett on Jan 31, 2009 12:48:01 GMT -5
Well.... I want to add my commentary but I don't think I should.
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Post by micaylah on Jan 31, 2009 16:41:27 GMT -5
Everett I would like to hear your thoughts. If you don't want to put them in the thread would you PM them to me?
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Everett
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Post by Everett on Jan 31, 2009 16:51:37 GMT -5
No see my commentary is literally commentary. It's not my opinion.
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Post by sumdood on Jan 31, 2009 21:25:04 GMT -5
all right fayr, lemme explain the darkness to you: darkness cancreate what is alled darklight, which is essentially shadow that acts like light does. this being said, you can use darklight offensively by channeling it into a sort of laser, just like you can with light. having said that, darklight can only be formed by darkness elementals.
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Fayr
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Post by Fayr on Feb 1, 2009 12:16:13 GMT -5
Ah so darkness has a sort of non-light power! This makes it a little more reasonable that it can be as strong as Earth because when I read the powers I was like it looks like it would be pretty easy for someone like Creel(if he could fully control his powers) to beat the Void.
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Post by sheroknight on Feb 1, 2009 14:03:14 GMT -5
Or anyone that generates light to get rid of shadow. But no, its like anti light.
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Post by Fayr on Feb 1, 2009 14:05:23 GMT -5
So darkness isn't so strong after all!lol. I wonder how the Void even put up a challenge.
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Everett
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Post by Everett on Feb 1, 2009 14:47:39 GMT -5
I thought you could only have one elemental sumdood?
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Post by micaylah on Feb 1, 2009 15:02:28 GMT -5
lol Fayr everything has a counter that balances it just as in life. Fire-water; dark-light; cold-heat; love-hate; good-evil etc
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Post by Fayr on Feb 1, 2009 15:06:40 GMT -5
Yeah it just seems darkness is a pretty weak element if your smart enough.
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Post by micaylah on Feb 1, 2009 15:32:27 GMT -5
Ah...but there is no such thing as an all powerful anything. Everything has something that will neutralize it or at least weaken it. Dark can never be fully destroyed anymore than light can. They share boundaries governed by the forces of nature. There will always be dark of night and light of day balancing each other.
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Post by Fayr on Feb 1, 2009 15:36:31 GMT -5
I didn't mean it was powerful or any of the other ones as all powerful. I'm talking about how it said earth is one of the most powerful except for darkness, light, wind, and maybe fire. I was just thinking that darkness wasn't that powerful, before he told m eof the laser and that made me think it might be ok.
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Post by micaylah on Feb 1, 2009 16:30:01 GMT -5
lol I see.
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Post by sumdood on Feb 1, 2009 17:26:24 GMT -5
Everett, yes, Lynx(I think she's the one that pointed that out to me) pointed it out to me. I intend to go in and change that in the rules at the first opportunity. The main reason I have two, though, is for storyline purposes, though. But, the rules will still only allow a player to have only one elemental at a time unless it is approved by myself for storyline purposes. And, Fayr, Light can't just completely outdo Darkness. They essentially cancel each other out. Darklight is more offensively powerful than Light, but Light can dispel Darkness's illusions, which cuts one of Darkness's main strategies(Darkness Element is best suited for Assassins, etc rather than barreling through everything like a tank, like Earth and even Fire is) down drastically. So, yeah, Mica's right.
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Everett
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Post by Everett on Feb 1, 2009 17:48:07 GMT -5
This is just my opinion but there shouldn't be any exceptions to a rule. If its needed for story line purposes it kinda takes away a chance from somebody else being involved in the story. Still just my opinion but I think its more fun if the members handle it among themselves instead of the whole story being controlled by one person.
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Post by sumdood on Feb 1, 2009 18:30:24 GMT -5
oh, believe me, everett, I'm not trying to control the whole story. I'm just trying to help guide it in a certain direction(ie, the eventual defeat of The Void). However that happens is up to the players, though. and the exception is really only because we have so few players, everett. The Elementals are the driving force behind the story, you know. So.....they have a big hand in it and at some point, if everyone on here has an Elemental, it might become necessary to have a second one. But, like I said, that's just as a last resort. I'll give an Elemental to someone who doesnt have one before I give a second out to someone.
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Post by sheroknight on Feb 2, 2009 11:21:40 GMT -5
How's fire weak? Even a weak fire elemental can destroy an entire city, not to mention fire was the cause of extinction for a gaint species of lizard, probably one of the last prehistoric dinosaur type creatures (darn ausies). Though I do suppose fire is a DPS element more so than a TANK element like EARTH would be.
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Post by singent on Feb 2, 2009 13:29:16 GMT -5
Man, I can't believe I'm gonna jump in on this. But look, there is no 'more' powerful element. If that were true, how would the world exhist? Someone mentioned it earlier, there are balances that just happen and can't be manipulated.
I'll use an example Fayr; Horus: he uses a large double-bladed axe, right? So he can only do linear swings with his weapon, meaning up and down or left to right, or else it would lose too much momentum to do damage. He gave up any chances of parrying or feignting. Due to it being large it's hard for him to switch directions with it, so the shield is very vital. See?
Another one would be: strength vs. speed. A person who can bench an insane amount doesn't have a very fast twitch reflex, or a person who can fence really well isn't going to be that as strong as afore mentioned guy. Balances.
And I disagree with sumdood, Elementals don't need to be the driving force behind the story. If that were true, then he is catering to a specific group. Also is severely underestimating a lot of characters on here.
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Post by Fayr on Feb 2, 2009 15:00:50 GMT -5
Dang it seems for some strange reason everyone thinks I'm an idiot because they don't understand what I was talking about. I understand balance and everything in nature, I know none of the elements are the more powerful ones I was just saying Darkness didn't look so powerful compared to Earth if they were to fight!
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Everett
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Post by Everett on Feb 2, 2009 15:09:16 GMT -5
And I disagree with sumdood, Elementals don't need to be the driving force behind the story. If that were true, then he is catering to a specific group. Also is severely underestimating a lot of characters on here. Thats exactly what I thought. If they are the driving force everybody whose a non elemental is going to be quite unimportant.
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